Continued from Part 1
[20:19] <Ddr> Well.. mythos has a bug with adding stats
[20:20] <TaylorFSS`home> yep, they are being fixed
[20:20] <Ddr> I’m not sure how\why it works but i had a toon that if i spammed to add stats
[20:20] <TaylorFSS`home> brb, gotta close Legions
[20:20] <Ddr> i could add 6-8 instead of 5
[20:20] <Saveme> Mythos has that nice yellow ESRB Rating
[20:20] <Ddr> :$
[20:20] <throwawayloki> what are your plans to promote the game, i dont know anyone that i havent told aready about the game that has heard of it?
[20:20] <BMLeo> Legions is really good for an in browser game
[20:20] <Tekn0> They have an advanced marketing strategy
[20:20] <Tekn0> Taylor is going to climb a building nakesd
[20:20] <Tekn0> and then should MYTHOS through a bullhorn
[20:20] <Ddr> Mythos is on WoW forums 
[20:21] <Ddr> that should help :$
[20:21] <throwawayloki> lol
[20:21] <Saveme> Mythos is Everywhere
[20:21] <reload> seed has been planted, lol.
[20:21] <Firedogking> actually Mythos is probably going to be one of the most popular free games released period.
[20:21] <Ddr> that’s how i found out about it lol
[20:21] <BMLeo> what happened to the elves in mythos, was there some sort of elf mass killing or something?
[20:21] <Saveme> Look for Mythos Beer and you’ll find Mythos :p
[20:21] <Ddr> I want gnomes 
[20:21] <throwawayloki> elvicide
[20:21] <Firedogking> Plus I have to say the community is definitely cooler in Mythos.
[20:21] <Firedogking> LOL
[20:21] <TaylorFSS`home> ok back
[20:21] <Firedogking> they ate too many Nutter butters?
[20:22] <reload> the only thing that bothers me is that it sounds like mentos =x
[20:22] <reload> welcome back.
[20:22] <Firedogking> ELviscide
[20:22] <throwawayloki> dang it i lost the game
[20:22] <BMLeo> is there a difference between elves and elfs like dwarves and dwarfs ?
[20:22] <Ddr> TaylorFSS`home, is the height of a gremlin going to effect it being hit by attacks?
[20:22] <Tekn0> Once mythos goes into open beta
[20:22] <TaylorFSS`home> no
[20:22] <Tekn0> the community will get worse
[20:22] <Tekn0> the retards will invade en mass
[20:22] <Firedogking> nah
[20:22] <Smug> elves were put into large camps and FSS made them work till they died
[20:22] <Tekn0> Yeah
[20:22] <Firedogking> the game invites fun people.
[20:22] <Tekn0> Open beta = anyone can join
[20:23] <TaylorFSS`home> The Elves were dealth with. That is all.
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[20:23] <Ddr> I don’t know. Open beta = all the little kids joining up lol
[20:23] <TaylorFSS`home> dealt*
[20:23] <Firedogking> seriously the way mythos plays its just a fun happy go lucky game.
[20:23] <TaylorFSS`home> hehe
[20:23] <Tekn0> It doesn’t matter
[20:23] <BMLeo> will attacking a short class as a larger class have different animations than a taller one?
[20:23] <Tekn0> the community will fill with retards
[20:23] <Firedogking> It actually promotes a good attitude
[20:23] <Tekn0> I promise this
[20:23] <throwawayloki> but there are already quite a few little kids playing and its not that bad
[20:23] <Tekn0> Should this channel turn retarded
[20:23] <TaylorFSS`home> no BMLeo, since we’re working to make the game as small as possible
[20:23] <Tekn0> I’ll make my own
[20:23] <Tekn0> and ban morons
[20:23] <Firedogking> Tek we had like hundreds added in the last few weeks.
[20:23] <TaylorFSS`home> we’re not going to put a ton of useless animations etc. in
[20:23] <BMLeo> oh I guess I won’t be able to smash smaller classes with clubs
[20:23] <Tekn0> yeah
[20:23] <Ddr> Gremlin BL’s going ‘yoda’ on a cyclops?
[20:24] <Firedogking> And its not been effectived.
[20:24] <TaylorFSS`home> The next build for instance, won’t have Zone 2 or 3 content, and the Zone 1 road system is gone as well
[20:24] <Tekn0> in open beta will multiply the community thousands of times over
[20:24] <TaylorFSS`home> which means the next build for you guys will be tiny
[20:24] <Firedogking> its a different type of game.
[20:24] <Tekn0> hundreds won’t even be on the radar
[20:24] <TaylorFSS`home> we hope Mythos is successful 
[20:24] <throwawayloki> give us an estimate on the file size
[20:24] <TaylorFSS`home> can’t throwawayloki
[20:24] <Firedogking> nice
[20:24] <TaylorFSS`home> but keep in mind
[20:24] <Deathtiny> but still with random-questgivers or levelcapped due to moblevels ?
[20:24] <BMLeo> will it be a pain to get from the temple of ferrus to the major town?
[20:24] <TaylorFSS`home> the current executable is 444MB
[20:24] <TaylorFSS`home> and over 2/3 of that is being ripped out
[20:25] <throwawayloki> im guessing less then a third
[20:25] <reload> good, maybe that will fix my lag issues ;p
[20:25] <Firedogking> wow like 100megs lol
[20:25] <TaylorFSS`home> no BMLeo, you can still teleport
[20:25] <Ddr> 100 Mb is very small
[20:25] <BMLeo> oh thank god
[20:25] <Hexyl> taylor, what do you content do you guys plan to add for players who have reached the level cap? is there going to be some form of “raiding” available or just pvp?
[20:25] <TaylorFSS`home> i don’t know how much i can say
[20:25] <TaylorFSS`home> we’re not making you run much
[20:25] <throwawayloki> my guess is 103mb, cause that is an awesome number
[20:25] <Smug> I think the first beta client was around 250 to 300 megs, so it’ll be around that size (bit larger)
[20:25] <TaylorFSS`home> Hexyl, we have a few things rolling around ni our heads, for me I’d like to see raiding, or high end PvP instances, etc.
[20:25] <TaylorFSS`home> we’ll see, could be some fun game types like survival modes or something
[20:25] <BMLeo> why do minions stink sort of hard at higher levels? 
[20:26] <TiberiusAudley> Uberquests!
[20:26] <TaylorFSS`home> where 5 level 50’s go into a level with an unbeatable amount of monsters and a timer starts
[20:26] <TiberiusAudley> Lawl
[20:26] <Akuyazi> objective team based pvp please
[20:26] <TaylorFSS`home> Also, at some point I think Travis wants to do the retirement system
[20:26] <TiberiusAudley> I vote they add the Mythos Meta-Game!
[20:26] <throwawayloki> lol that sounds like a timed epic
[20:26] <Ddr> and when you go in the mortal combat theme plays?
[20:26] <Akuyazi> retirement system?
[20:26] <TaylorFSS`home> throwawayloki, i can do a 45 epic solo
[20:26] <reload> In the announcement accidently posting of screenshots was mentioned ;p
[20:26] <TiberiusAudley> Aku: You “retire” and leave some sort of heirloom after doing so
[20:26] <reload> where’s this *grin*
[20:26] <Smug> “Arena of much Blood and a bloody bit of Honor”
[20:26] <TaylorFSS`home> reload, unfortunately I tried to get the screenshot
[20:26] <Firedogking> 45 epic solo.
[20:26] <Firedogking> jesus
[20:27] <TaylorFSS`home> but apparently I forgot to bring our server list home lol
[20:27] <Saveme> Would you consider instead of raiding, do the Warhammer Public Quest idea, since its a pain to wait for raids even if they are small.
[20:27] <Akuyazi> heir loom in the world?
[20:27] <TaylorFSS`home> so I can’t get on the dev server anymore
[20:27] <BMLeo> would being old and not retiring make you gradually weaker?
[20:27] <TaylorFSS`home> from home that is
[20:27] <Firedogking> What class?
[20:27] <Firedogking> LOL
[20:27] <Firedogking> or with any class?
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[20:27] <TaylorFSS`home> so Monday I will be releasing a new screenshot to Mythos Conclave for everyone
[20:27] <reload> no worries, was just wondering if it was false advertisign lol
[20:27] <Smug> Gadgeteer
[20:27] <TaylorFSS`home> the Public Quests in Warhammer Online are fantastic!
[20:27] <Ddr> Will party size increas since the # of people on each overworld is going to be 100+?
[20:27] <TaylorFSS`home> I love them to death, we’re not much for copying everything in successful games, we’re not WoW
[20:27] <TaylorFSS`home> but we will not ignore people who enjoy playing their max level character
[20:27] <BMLeo> man is it true that in warhammer, if you killed 4 orks, and got a quest to kill 5 orks, you would start with 4/5?
[20:28] <TaylorFSS`home> Party Size isn’t increasing as far as I know
[20:28] <Akuyazi> you know what would be cool
[20:28] <TaylorFSS`home> yes BMLeo
[20:28] <TaylorFSS`home> in fact, most of the time
[20:28] <Akuyazi> some sort of event that requires alot of people to do crap to complete
[20:28] <BMLeo> oh god I love that idea
[20:28] <Akuyazi> like how the dark knight advertising campaign
[20:28] <TaylorFSS`home> you end up coming into town and you have a quest completed that you never accepted
[20:28] <Akuyazi> except in game form
[20:28] <Smug> guess there’ll be some kind of raidgroup system in the future
[20:28] <Akuyazi> lol
[20:28] <TaylorFSS`home> hope so Smug
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[20:28] <BMLeo> steal that system and add it in, nobody will tell nobody
[20:28] <TaylorFSS`home> lol
[20:28] <TaylorFSS`home> well, its actually something we talked about before Warhammer ever had a beta
[20:29] <throwawayloki> i played a freegame called knight online, which had a cool concept, random times there would be like a 30
[20:29] <Firedogking> whats he talking about? I closed my eyes..
[20:29] <Smug> what I’d really like to see
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[20:29] <throwawayloki> % increase to exp or gold drop
[20:29] <Saveme> But in my opinion thats kinda fake, I would understand if the quest giver had some Line of Sight to see you kill X mobs but to go into town and he magically knows you killed X Mobs is ridiculous
[20:29] <Smug> is some kind of really big event at the start of the “release”
[20:29] <throwawayloki> sorry hit enter too early
[20:29] <Ddr> Are guild fights going to be added?
[20:29] <reload> premature enterlation ?
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[20:29] <TaylorFSS`home> I would too Smug
[20:29] <FunKed> sorry if this has been asked before but when can we expect the next patch to go live?
[20:29] <Ddr> like a ‘guild war’ zone
[20:29] <TaylorFSS`home> Guild Fights are something we haven’t even touched
[20:30] <Firedogking> funked.
[20:30] <TiberiusAudley> Boo
[20:30] <Akuyazi> but are considering?
[20:30] <Firedogking> when its done.
[20:30] <TaylorFSS`home> new patch will (with luck) be this month, but i can’t promise anything
[20:30] <Akuyazi> or have it in thought somewhere down the line
[20:30] <TiberiusAudley> Taylor: Guild and Player Housing needs to be in districts on the Overworld
[20:30] <FunKed> ok
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[20:30] <BMLeo> any plans for something like guild wars, where you can start at max level and be pvp only?
[20:30] <TiberiusAudley>
[20:30] <TaylorFSS`home> TiberiusAudley, I think that we should do the Lineage style housing system
[20:30] <TiberiusAudley> Hm?
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[20:30] <Akuyazi> lol no
[20:30] <Smug> means?
[20:30] <Akuyazi> that wouldnt be cool
[20:30] <Smug> instanced?
[20:30] <TaylorFSS`home> no
[20:30] <TiberiusAudley> Not familiar with it. All I know about Lineage and Guilds is Sieges
[20:30] <Akuyazi> it’s not a pvp focused game
[20:30] <TiberiusAudley> Where Dwarves have giant fecking robots
[20:30] <TaylorFSS`home> oh i dont mean Castles Aku
[20:30] <Saveme> Taylor by any chance did you catch my thread packed with Cash Shop item suggestions?
[20:30] <TaylorFSS`home> i mean housing
[20:31] <TaylorFSS`home> you purchase a clan hall at the town, and its yours
[20:31] <TaylorFSS`home> you can then sell it to someone for profit, or keep paying the weekly cost to have it every week
[20:31] <TaylorFSS`home> I did Saveme
[20:31] <Hexyl> with respect to the game’s economy, is there going to be some sort of a control structure to prevent rampant inflation among goods once players have reached the level cap and don’t spend much money anymore? some sort of money sink (like WoW had mounts)?
[20:31] <TaylorFSS`home> and we all looked at it 
[20:31] <BMLeo> will pay money be like that game gunbound where its an alternative to money?
[20:31] <TiberiusAudley> Heh, I think each “Anchorshrine” should be tied to a “lot”, and guilds should be able to purchase a “lot” from a real estate agent and add a house or castle to it.
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[20:31] <UnderOver> Well, i’m heading back to playing, my gear sucks - need to work on it some. Thanks for the open discussion. G’bye all.
[20:31] <Saveme>
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[20:32] <BMLeo> see you when the wipe hits
[20:32] <TiberiusAudley> Blood Eagle’s gonna represent Greenreach-4 with a giant Castle right next to Gussen Farm, right Taylor? X-D
[20:32] <TaylorFSS`home> Hexyl, something Hellgate did for that is the donations system. Donating gold would raise the donations #, once that reaches a certain point it clears and gives a worldwide buff
[20:32] <rorbot> bloodletters not being able to tank discuss:
[20:32] <TaylorFSS`home> HELL YES TIBERIUS
[20:32] <TiberiusAudley> “Hey Necromancer Clum, look at our GIANT FUCKINNG CASTLE.”
[20:32] <vincent> Cu ,thanks for chat !
[20:32] <TaylorFSS`home> thanks for coming guys
[20:32] <Firedogking> here is a crazy idea.. How about a system where you donate items.. uniques ..Oranges. to certain npcs and based on what you donate Some of those items may appear people with factions as quest rewards. as part of your donation you can get special coin used for purchasing special items.
[20:32] <BMLeo> who here chose to kill playboy x in GTA4
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[20:33] <TaylorFSS`home> well Firedogking, we’re not making 3 currencies hehe
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[20:33] <rorbot> bloodletters not being able to tank discuss:
[20:33] <Firedogking> well or possibly Get that second currencey ? hehe
[20:33] <TaylorFSS`home> as for donating items, good idea
[20:33] <throwawayloki> how about a guild bank, where you can share items with your guild
[20:33] <Smug> I’d build myself a huuuuuge Towercity, lol
[20:33] <TaylorFSS`home> we could have items be donated, and their normal NPC sell value added to teh total
[20:33] <Ddr> I say we bring back oldschool MegaMan and do Zenny instead of copper\silver\gold
[20:33] <BMLeo> how about going on dates with NPCs for buffs
[20:33] <Smug> http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/07/31/overlord_tower_minions_final.jpg <3 that Tower
[20:34] <Hexyl> what about some sort of bazaar or auction house where players can put items for sale?
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[20:34] <TaylorFSS`home> definitely in the plans Hexyl
[20:34] <TaylorFSS`home> first was our mail system
[20:34] <Firedogking> yeah thats a given
[20:34] <TaylorFSS`home> now we can build on it an AH
[20:34] <Ddr> Like the market system in ConquerOnline
[20:34] <Hexyl> excellent
[20:34] <TaylorFSS`home> something I want to advocate, is a player shop
[20:34] <throwawayloki> how about a guild bank, where you can share items with your guild
[20:34] <TaylorFSS`home> where along side the auction house is the “player shop”
[20:34] <Firedogking> hehe
[20:34] <Deathtiny> i would like to see community-projects like the town of a new zone has to br rebuild to get the npc?s spawn / shops open etc.
[20:34] <TaylorFSS`home> and players put their craft supplies in there and a price for how much each item they can make
[20:35] <Firedogking> I see
[20:35] <TaylorFSS`home> but that system is very intricate
[20:35] <TaylorFSS`home> and would require lots of planning
[20:35] <throwawayloki> how about making merchant npc’s actually useful for items
[20:35] <Firedogking> yuppers.
[20:35] <TaylorFSS`home> its a loot drop game throwawayloki
[20:35] <Hexyl> lol
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[20:35] <TaylorFSS`home> the loot at the NPC’s is just in case you haven’t found any OK boots or sword yet
[20:35] <throwawayloki> then why are they there to begin with?
[20:35] <Ddr> The gambling NPC is actually useful for getting loot for lower level toons
[20:35] <TaylorFSS`home> they’re to make sure you aren’t super gimped
[20:35] <Firedogking> hehe
[20:35] <throwawayloki> or some decent quest items from the storyline quests
[20:36] <Deathtiny> any plans on limiting the numbers how often you can abbandon the random-quests to “respawn” new rewards @taylor ? they create loot so fast ..
[20:36] <Firedogking> shh.. but guess what.. its past ten minutes
[20:36] <TaylorFSS`home> well, thats a big problem to me
[20:36] <throwawayloki> i mean getting whites in zone 3 doesnt make sense
[20:36] <TaylorFSS`home> I think what should happen is
[20:36] <TaylorFSS`home> when you talk to teh NPC it should lock that quest in
[20:36] <TaylorFSS`home> thats my personal thought
[20:36] <throwawayloki> i like cyling through the green quests for good items
[20:36] <TaylorFSS`home> im not sure what we’re going to do about abusing it
[20:36] <Deathtiny> i would limit it to maybe 5 times until no abandon for new loot is possible
[20:36] <Firedogking> ITs random though.
[20:37] <Saveme> or lock it for 15 minutes so you can abandon and get it again with different items later.
[20:37] <Firedogking> seriously I have spent like anhour rebooting quests.
[20:37] <Firedogking> And 1 time I swear
[20:37] <TaylorFSS`home> i think we should make it blue+ items only and make it so at least 1 item is currently usable by the player